Comments on: Top 5 Reasons Why I Dropped Entourage 2008

By: Ray

Ray — Thu, 25 Nov 2010 20:45:25 +0000

The only advantage to Entourage is that, if you are using another MS Office program, you can send it simply by selecting “File/Send to >” instead of attaching the document to the e-mail message. This feature only works with Entourage — not with T-bird, Eudora, etc.

By: Thomas

Thomas — Thu, 04 Mar 2010 03:08:23 +0000

I wonder if Office 2011 will be any better. I heard a rumor of Outlook for Mac but I’m not sure. I kind of hope so even though I’m not a Microsoft fan.

By: John B

John B — Wed, 03 Mar 2010 21:41:54 +0000

Thanks for your post. I won’t be upgrading to Office 2008. I just wish Filemaker supported Thunderbird.

By: Thomas

Thomas — Wed, 24 Feb 2010 03:38:47 +0000

I’ve tried to just use Entourage’s calendar and it just doesn’t work. You either need to use the whole app or nothing.

As far as logos in your emails, Mail.app should be able to do that with templates. I haven’t used them, but it should be possible.

By: Elaine

Elaine — Tue, 23 Feb 2010 14:20:35 +0000

I went Mac last July and started out with Mail although I had Entourage. I finally went over to Entourage because the calendar application is so much better than iCal and I wanted my company logo to go out on the email not as an attachment which is irritating about Apple Mail. Been fooling with it for three weeks now after big hassle of organizing my contacts in the Entourage address book, but I’m going to look at the Thunderbird application mentioned here. Aside from above issue, here’s what I hate. When you select cc or bcc you get that drop down for addresses that causes you to keep going back to the mouse rather than being able to address your email only with key strokes. Very bad feature. Addressing emails to large groups and organizing contacts sucks. Apple Address book is a much better contact manager. When you do a bcc email to large group, try printing out a copy of where it went — never did figure that out. It is cumbersome. If I knew a way to just load the calendar app, I would do so, because it is really good.

By: Spanners

Spanners — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 22:44:45 +0000

Glad to know I’m not the only one a bit peeved with Entourage. Just crossed platform from PC to Mac, and Exchange and HTML mass emails are big facets of our business process. I’m sick of Microsoft and MVPs taking the “We know what’s best for you” attitude. If I want hyperlinks and pretty designs for my emails, then I’ll fricken have them!

Going to try out Snow Leopard’s Mail with Exchange compatibility and see how I go.

By: CRG

CRG — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 02:32:40 +0000

I ran across a transcript of the HTML debate that you referenced before coming across this page. I also was searching for a way to insert a hyperlink into an Entourage email message. My conclusions were the same as yours with regard to #5.

The MVPs were downright haughty and far from helpful. I suspect that most of the people on that thread understood the drawbacks of HTML, but also see value in it when used in moderation. Yet most of the MVPs spent their text with condescending and borderline insulting responses to the people asking questions rather than giving helpful information.

Anyway, it’s off to Thunderbird for me.

By: Phil

Phil — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 15:10:12 +0000

ABSOLUTELY agree with on pretty much every point. The failure to support HTML more fully (esp Tables) just kills me for the same reasons .. my corporate email is FULL of tables, either directly formatted HTML, or pasted Excel. Honestly, I waffle back-and-forth to using Outlook in Parallels and using Entourage. Thunderbird and Mail.app are unusable in this environment — Entourage is close, but it is the details that are so frustrating. FWIW, in general I agree that (7-bit!!!) ASCII is the way to go, and I’d like to get rid of all HTML after the original HTML 1.0 spec for web pages. But then, I’d prefer to ride a horse to work or driving, but that also isn’t practical….

By: John

John — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 18:20:42 +0000

With mail.app you cannot set it to NOT mark an email as read when you have preview on. That drives me crazy, especially when you search as it jumps through emails while you type your search text. Entourage has a lot of good features to manage emails. The only really bad one I suffer is the inability to create tables, but still, the best client I’ve used (I’ve also used mail.app and Thunderbird).

By: James

James — Fri, 25 Apr 2008 10:50:13 +0000

I had high hopes for office:mac 2008, let down bigstyle…

I use Outlook 07 in parallels and live by it, I use exchange to sync my macbook, windows mobile and also on web access and it runs my business. Entourage is absolutely bobbins.

No support for exchange tasks, no server side categories for calender or mail.

Complete waste of time, emailed MS and they aren’t bothered. Just replied saying it’s not a true MAPI client.

Still using outlook in parallels, means having windows running all the time though.

By: Thomas

Thomas — Fri, 04 Apr 2008 01:35:44 +0000

carlivar – There is a huge difference between some bold text and three links and an entire webpage though. I don’t aim to go crazy, just a few formatting choices.

By: carlivar

carlivar — Fri, 04 Apr 2008 00:29:00 +0000

I agree with the MVP about HTML email. HTML email is evil. HTML is for web pages. If you really want to send HTML stuff why not just attach an .html document? That seems more appropriate.

There is no perfect mail client for the Mac, if you’re stuck with Exchange on the server side for business calendaring. Every single client has drawbacks.

Choose your poison.

By: Thomas

Thomas — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 02:17:05 +0000

Mail.app under Leopard passed all my iCal and Outlook tests. Under 10.4.x it failed with odd characters and calendar integration was just OK.

By: ptackbar

ptackbar — Tue, 11 Mar 2008 19:22:46 +0000

Why not give Mail.app a try? It’s obviously got great integration with iCal…