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> <channel><title>Comments on: How I moved my email to Gmail</title> <atom:link href="http://www.twistermc.com/1419/moved-email-to-gmail/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.twistermc.com/1419/moved-email-to-gmail/</link> <description>Like a themepark of random information.</description> <lastBuildDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 04:25:44 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <item><title>By: Travis</title><link>http://www.twistermc.com/1419/moved-email-to-gmail/#comment-323366</link> <dc:creator>Travis</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:54:49 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.twistermc.com/blog/?p=1419#comment-323366</guid> <description>Nevermind.  Found it here for anyone else with the same issues:  http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=2008041016554622</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nevermind.  Found it here for anyone else with the same issues: <a
href="http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=2008041016554622" rel="nofollow">http://www.macosxhints.com/article.php?story=2008041016554622</a></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Travis</title><link>http://www.twistermc.com/1419/moved-email-to-gmail/#comment-323362</link> <dc:creator>Travis</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:47:07 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.twistermc.com/blog/?p=1419#comment-323362</guid> <description>Thanks this has helped alot.  Question for you.
I&#039;m not quite ready to loosen my grip on Mail.app and jump totally to Google/Mailplane, but I&#039;m having an issue with deleting messages.
If I use Mail&#039;s delete button, it puts it in the Mail trash folder, not the Google trash folder.  Anyway that can be adjusted so it syncs to the IMAP server.  Dragging the mail to appropriate trash folder is annoying to say the least, especially when I have 4 accounts open.  Not to mention old habits die hard.
And just realized this happens for Sent messages as well.  What am I doing wrong.
Thanks for your help.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks this has helped alot.  Question for you.</p><p>I&#8217;m not quite ready to loosen my grip on Mail.app and jump totally to Google/Mailplane, but I&#8217;m having an issue with deleting messages.</p><p>If I use Mail&#8217;s delete button, it puts it in the Mail trash folder, not the Google trash folder.  Anyway that can be adjusted so it syncs to the IMAP server.  Dragging the mail to appropriate trash folder is annoying to say the least, especially when I have 4 accounts open.  Not to mention old habits die hard.<br
/> And just realized this happens for Sent messages as well.  What am I doing wrong.<br
/> Thanks for your help.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Richard Price</title><link>http://www.twistermc.com/1419/moved-email-to-gmail/#comment-306454</link> <dc:creator>Richard Price</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 22:50:49 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.twistermc.com/blog/?p=1419#comment-306454</guid> <description>Came across this article when searching for Thunderbird-&gt;Gmail migration.
But in response to all, especially you Mr. Ridley, owning your own mail server (or part of one as most of us can&#039;t afford to own the whole of a hosted server) is not a practical solution.
Simple solution: If you are paranoid GMail will look at your emails out, use GPG. Encrypt and sign emails and files sent with GMail.
Hell you should use GPG with all sensitive emails, regardless of whose server you use. Your email can be sniffed anywhere along its route.
The only downside is you can&#039;t see what you actually sent the person (asymmetric encryption). Just send a copy of the plain text encrypted to yourself before sending. It&#039;s annoying, but that is what confidential communication requires these days.
I love Google, but I don&#039;t trust them. If Google&#039;s standards are as low as YOU make them out to be, then the world is going to shit anyway.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Came across this article when searching for Thunderbird-&gt;Gmail migration.</p><p>But in response to all, especially you Mr. Ridley, owning your own mail server (or part of one as most of us can&#8217;t afford to own the whole of a hosted server) is not a practical solution.</p><p>Simple solution: If you are paranoid GMail will look at your emails out, use GPG. Encrypt and sign emails and files sent with GMail.</p><p>Hell you should use GPG with all sensitive emails, regardless of whose server you use. Your email can be sniffed anywhere along its route.</p><p>The only downside is you can&#8217;t see what you actually sent the person (asymmetric encryption). Just send a copy of the plain text encrypted to yourself before sending. It&#8217;s annoying, but that is what confidential communication requires these days.</p><p>I love Google, but I don&#8217;t trust them. If Google&#8217;s standards are as low as YOU make them out to be, then the world is going to shit anyway.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Thomas</title><link>http://www.twistermc.com/1419/moved-email-to-gmail/#comment-280410</link> <dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 22:39:58 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.twistermc.com/blog/?p=1419#comment-280410</guid> <description>Not sure your point Geordie.  I think that every ISP or email provider can read your email and monitor your activity.  No exceptions. I also think that Google doesn&#039;t track me specifically, but much like their search algorithm, they can find topics and similarities in emails.  No big deal in my book.  I&#039;m cool with Google.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure your point Geordie.  I think that every ISP or email provider can read your email and monitor your activity.  No exceptions. I also think that Google doesn&#8217;t track me specifically, but much like their search algorithm, they can find topics and similarities in emails.  No big deal in my book.  I&#8217;m cool with Google.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Geordie</title><link>http://www.twistermc.com/1419/moved-email-to-gmail/#comment-280318</link> <dc:creator>Geordie</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 11:22:45 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.twistermc.com/blog/?p=1419#comment-280318</guid> <description>Thomas, I have to say that your are being a bit naive if you think that all of the other email providers are not able to check emails on their system. A good point about Google is that it is such a big player which means that for them to pick out any specific identifiable information on your emails from the billions of other emails sent over the internet would be to say at the least &quot;improbable&quot;. Unless of course you are worried that you yourself are being specifically targeted ??</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thomas, I have to say that your are being a bit naive if you think that all of the other email providers are not able to check emails on their system. A good point about Google is that it is such a big player which means that for them to pick out any specific identifiable information on your emails from the billions of other emails sent over the internet would be to say at the least &#8220;improbable&#8221;. Unless of course you are worried that you yourself are being specifically targeted ??</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Darrell Ridley</title><link>http://www.twistermc.com/1419/moved-email-to-gmail/#comment-270624</link> <dc:creator>Darrell Ridley</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 20:22:20 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.twistermc.com/blog/?p=1419#comment-270624</guid> <description>Thomas,
My apologies.
An interesting piece from Google themselves on Privacy:
&quot;Privacy. As a condition to using the Service, you agree to the terms of the Gmail Privacy Policy as it may be updated from time to time. Google understands that privacy is important to you. You do, however, agree that Google may monitor, edit or disclose your personal information, including the content of your emails...as otherwise provided in these Terms of Use and the Gmail Privacy Policy. Personal information collected by Google may be stored and processed in the United States or any other country in which Google Inc. or its agents maintain facilities. By using Gmail, you consent to any such transfer of information outside of your country.&quot;
And the best part is, is that they provide this service without any responsible for it!
&quot;Indemnification. You agree to hold harmless and indemnify Google, and its subsidiaries, affiliates, officers, agents, and employees from and against any third party claim arising from or in any way related to your use of the Service, including any liability or expense arising from all claims, losses, damages (actual and consequential), suits, judgments(sic), litigation costs and attorneys&#039; fees, of every kind and nature. In such a case, Google will provide you with written notice of such claim, suit or action.&quot;
http://gmail.google.com/mail/help/terms_of_use.html
I also notice that you are running Adsense ads on this site. Did you know this, which is the contract you agree to when you sign up with Adsense...
&quot;Google may transfer and disclose to third parties personally identifiable information about You for the purpose of approving and enabling Your participation in the Program, including to third parties that reside in jurisdictions with less restrictive data laws than Your own.&quot; https://www.google.com/adsense/localized-terms
Why anyone would have anything to do with this company, not to mention, trust them, is beyond me. There are plenty of other alternatives for email and ads.
Darrell</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thomas,</p><p>My apologies.</p><p>An interesting piece from Google themselves on Privacy:</p><p>&#8220;Privacy. As a condition to using the Service, you agree to the terms of the Gmail Privacy Policy as it may be updated from time to time. Google understands that privacy is important to you. You do, however, agree that Google may monitor, edit or disclose your personal information, including the content of your emails&#8230;as otherwise provided in these Terms of Use and the Gmail Privacy Policy. Personal information collected by Google may be stored and processed in the United States or any other country in which Google Inc. or its agents maintain facilities. By using Gmail, you consent to any such transfer of information outside of your country.&#8221;</p><p>And the best part is, is that they provide this service without any responsible for it!</p><p>&#8220;Indemnification. You agree to hold harmless and indemnify Google, and its subsidiaries, affiliates, officers, agents, and employees from and against any third party claim arising from or in any way related to your use of the Service, including any liability or expense arising from all claims, losses, damages (actual and consequential), suits, judgments(sic), litigation costs and attorneys&#8217; fees, of every kind and nature. In such a case, Google will provide you with written notice of such claim, suit or action.&#8221;<br
/> <a
href="http://gmail.google.com/mail/help/terms_of_use.html" rel="nofollow">http://gmail.google.com/mail/help/terms_of_use.html</a></p><p>I also notice that you are running Adsense ads on this site. Did you know this, which is the contract you agree to when you sign up with Adsense&#8230;</p><p>&#8220;Google may transfer and disclose to third parties personally identifiable information about You for the purpose of approving and enabling Your participation in the Program, including to third parties that reside in jurisdictions with less restrictive data laws than Your own.&#8221; <a
href="https://www.google.com/adsense/localized-terms" rel="nofollow">https://www.google.com/adsense/localized-terms</a></p><p>Why anyone would have anything to do with this company, not to mention, trust them, is beyond me. There are plenty of other alternatives for email and ads.</p><p>Darrell</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Thomas</title><link>http://www.twistermc.com/1419/moved-email-to-gmail/#comment-270598</link> <dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 19:10:41 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.twistermc.com/blog/?p=1419#comment-270598</guid> <description>Hi Darrell.  Comment moderation is in full effect and not all comments go live immediately.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Darrell.  Comment moderation is in full effect and not all comments go live immediately.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Darrell Ridley</title><link>http://www.twistermc.com/1419/moved-email-to-gmail/#comment-270581</link> <dc:creator>Darrell Ridley</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 18:32:54 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.twistermc.com/blog/?p=1419#comment-270581</guid> <description>Thomas,
Thanx for not showing my last two comments. Nice practice!
Darrell</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thomas,</p><p>Thanx for not showing my last two comments. Nice practice!</p><p>Darrell</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Darrell Ridley</title><link>http://www.twistermc.com/1419/moved-email-to-gmail/#comment-270512</link> <dc:creator>Darrell Ridley</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 12:03:21 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.twistermc.com/blog/?p=1419#comment-270512</guid> <description>Google are spies and are not to be trusted. They are actively recruiting people to spy for them. The want you to dob in someone who is either selling or buying text links.
Plus, Google recruited Matt Cutts, who is an ex NSA spy. This is all verifiable information, just a quick search will give you the results.
Also, my emails are not to my Mom, but to business associates and partners. I certainly don&#039;t want someone other than the intended recipient reading those emails, which usually have sensitive information contained therein.
What guarantees do I have that that information is kept private, some brief privacy policy from the private sector?
I will not respond to anyone who sends me an email from an Gmail account.
Darrell</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google are spies and are not to be trusted. They are actively recruiting people to spy for them. The want you to dob in someone who is either selling or buying text links.</p><p>Plus, Google recruited Matt Cutts, who is an ex NSA spy. This is all verifiable information, just a quick search will give you the results.</p><p>Also, my emails are not to my Mom, but to business associates and partners. I certainly don&#8217;t want someone other than the intended recipient reading those emails, which usually have sensitive information contained therein.</p><p>What guarantees do I have that that information is kept private, some brief privacy policy from the private sector?</p><p>I will not respond to anyone who sends me an email from an Gmail account.</p><p>Darrell</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Darrell Ridley</title><link>http://www.twistermc.com/1419/moved-email-to-gmail/#comment-270501</link> <dc:creator>Darrell Ridley</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 11:34:05 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.twistermc.com/blog/?p=1419#comment-270501</guid> <description>A simple search on Google Gmail Policy would find that link...but here is what Google says...
&quot;Google maintains and processes your Gmail account and its contents to provide the Gmail service to you and to improve our services. The Gmail service includes relevant advertising and related links based on the IP address, content of messages and other information related to your use of Gmail.&quot;
The link is here...
http://gmail.google.com/mail/help/privacy.html
For a more detailed look at what Google&#039;s GMail does, check out this...
http://epic.org/privacy/gmail/faq.html
Welcome to the real world of the Google Spy!
Darrell</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A simple search on Google Gmail Policy would find that link&#8230;but here is what Google says&#8230;</p><p>&#8220;Google maintains and processes your Gmail account and its contents to provide the Gmail service to you and to improve our services. The Gmail service includes relevant advertising and related links based on the IP address, content of messages and other information related to your use of Gmail.&#8221;</p><p>The link is here&#8230;</p><p><a
href="http://gmail.google.com/mail/help/privacy.html" rel="nofollow">http://gmail.google.com/mail/help/privacy.html</a></p><p>For a more detailed look at what Google&#8217;s GMail does, check out this&#8230;</p><p><a
href="http://epic.org/privacy/gmail/faq.html" rel="nofollow">http://epic.org/privacy/gmail/faq.html</a></p><p>Welcome to the real world of the Google Spy!</p><p>Darrell</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Thomas</title><link>http://www.twistermc.com/1419/moved-email-to-gmail/#comment-270497</link> <dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 11:14:50 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.twistermc.com/blog/?p=1419#comment-270497</guid> <description>Good points Darrell . I&#039;d love that link where it says that Google reads our email.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good points Darrell . I&#8217;d love that link where it says that Google reads our email.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Darrell Ridley</title><link>http://www.twistermc.com/1419/moved-email-to-gmail/#comment-269936</link> <dc:creator>Darrell Ridley</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 13:49:12 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.twistermc.com/blog/?p=1419#comment-269936</guid> <description>Hi Thomas,
It certainly is true, they admit it themselves. I am fortunate to have my own hosting company and about 40 websites, so all my mail goes through me. It is comforting to know that what I write and what someone writes to me is between us and no third-party, that&#039;s all.
I don&#039;t trust Google. They don&#039;t have a good track record and plus they sold out to the Chinese by censoring their search results. Why? Because of the mighty dollar.
Google is a private organization. Who&#039;s keeping them honest?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Thomas,</p><p>It certainly is true, they admit it themselves. I am fortunate to have my own hosting company and about 40 websites, so all my mail goes through me. It is comforting to know that what I write and what someone writes to me is between us and no third-party, that&#8217;s all.</p><p>I don&#8217;t trust Google. They don&#8217;t have a good track record and plus they sold out to the Chinese by censoring their search results. Why? Because of the mighty dollar.</p><p>Google is a private organization. Who&#8217;s keeping them honest?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Thomas</title><link>http://www.twistermc.com/1419/moved-email-to-gmail/#comment-269896</link> <dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 10:49:23 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.twistermc.com/blog/?p=1419#comment-269896</guid> <description>Darrell.  If that were true, who cares?  It&#039;s not like email from my Mom is that private.  Any other email provider does the same.  Heck, even your ISP probably sells usage stats.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Darrell.  If that were true, who cares?  It&#8217;s not like email from my Mom is that private.  Any other email provider does the same.  Heck, even your ISP probably sells usage stats.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Darrell Ridley</title><link>http://www.twistermc.com/1419/moved-email-to-gmail/#comment-269868</link> <dc:creator>Darrell Ridley</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 08:24:12 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.twistermc.com/blog/?p=1419#comment-269868</guid> <description>You forgot to add that G Mail will spy on everything that you send through them and everything that anyone sends to you! Nice one!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You forgot to add that G Mail will spy on everything that you send through them and everything that anyone sends to you! Nice one!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Thomas</title><link>http://www.twistermc.com/1419/moved-email-to-gmail/#comment-268221</link> <dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 10:46:11 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.twistermc.com/blog/?p=1419#comment-268221</guid> <description>Sorry Katy, I don&#039;t have any experience with Gmail and Entourage.  My suggestion would be to double check the setting with what Google recommends and check out the Google help groups.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Katy, I don&#8217;t have any experience with Gmail and Entourage.  My suggestion would be to double check the setting with what Google recommends and check out the Google help groups.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Katy</title><link>http://www.twistermc.com/1419/moved-email-to-gmail/#comment-267779</link> <dc:creator>Katy</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 17:48:11 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.twistermc.com/blog/?p=1419#comment-267779</guid> <description>I did post this previously but it didn&#039;t appear - apologies if it become a double post!
I&#039;ve been using Gmail to manage all my email accounts for quite some time now and have all of my various email addresses forwarding to it.
I recently enabled IMAP on my account and have had no end of problems with it, emails appearing in the inbox (I use Entourage) after they&#039;ve been deleted, spam loading into the email box after I&#039;ve clicked on the spam folder, emails loosing labels, it&#039;s all really rather annoying.
Have you noticed any similar issues? I was wondering if it was just an Entourage thing or if it was a common occurrence or if it&#039;s just me!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did post this previously but it didn&#8217;t appear &#8211; apologies if it become a double post!</p><p>I&#8217;ve been using Gmail to manage all my email accounts for quite some time now and have all of my various email addresses forwarding to it.</p><p>I recently enabled IMAP on my account and have had no end of problems with it, emails appearing in the inbox (I use Entourage) after they&#8217;ve been deleted, spam loading into the email box after I&#8217;ve clicked on the spam folder, emails loosing labels, it&#8217;s all really rather annoying.</p><p>Have you noticed any similar issues? I was wondering if it was just an Entourage thing or if it was a common occurrence or if it&#8217;s just me!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Katy</title><link>http://www.twistermc.com/1419/moved-email-to-gmail/#comment-267764</link> <dc:creator>Katy</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 16:25:58 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.twistermc.com/blog/?p=1419#comment-267764</guid> <description>I&#039;ve been using GMail to manage everything for a while now (all my various email addresses forward to my GMail account) and whilst I am quite happy with the result I&#039;ve had a few (major to me) issues after enabling IMap with Entourage such as junk mail being pulled into the inbox, mail being pulled out of labels (folders) etc. I&#039;ve blogged about it in a bit more detail &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.flippingheck.com/index.asp?view=display&amp;ID=783&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; - have you noticed any of these issues with the mail application you&#039;re using?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been using GMail to manage everything for a while now (all my various email addresses forward to my GMail account) and whilst I am quite happy with the result I&#8217;ve had a few (major to me) issues after enabling IMap with Entourage such as junk mail being pulled into the inbox, mail being pulled out of labels (folders) etc. I&#8217;ve blogged about it in a bit more detail <a
href="http://www.flippingheck.com/index.asp?view=display&amp;ID=783" rel="nofollow">here</a> &#8211; have you noticed any of these issues with the mail application you&#8217;re using?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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